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Idiot Alert Dennis Windsor Defamatory Negative Feedback
Avoid This Unknowledgeable Buyer
Fortunately most of our customers, both eBay and non eBay customers, are reasonable people.
However in common with all businesses, we come across a small percentage, perhaps only 1 or 2%, who are unreasonable, stupid, paranoid, delusional, or possibly suffering from the temporary or permanent effects of substance abuse.
When it comes to direct (i.e. non-eBay) customers, our normal practice is to politely encourage them to shop elsewhere. Most of the time, they either do this, or become reasonable.
Via eBay, it is a little more difficult to avoid these customers from hell. Sure we could set a minimum feedback level, but we started at zero ourselves, and we decided not to restrict buyers. It is also easy for scammers and conmen to set up multiple accounts, and acquire an instant positive rating by buying numerous 1 cent or 1 penny items. Even a 100+ feedback does not guarantee that an eBay member is OK, as this example shows.
denniswindsor
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback
Feedback Score: 117
Positive Feedback: 96.8%
Members who left a positive: 120
Members who left a negative: 4
All positive feedback received: 228
Feedback Left For Us By Dennis Windsor
Negative feedback rating FRAUD ALERT! No one bought any of 3 sets as they are suspect.
Buyer denniswindsor( 117Feedback score is 100 to 499) 17-Aug-06 17:56 8395181246
Reply by chardcoins: NPB Non Paying Bidder. Beyond Reason, Left Defamatory Feedback, Should Be Banned 25-Aug-06 17:18
Notice to Dennis Windsor
We have been in the coin business as professionals for over 42 years. Everything we sell carries an absolute guarantee that it is genuine (unless specifically and clearly described otherwise), and as described. We are founder members of the BNTA, the UK equivalent of the ANA, and adhere to a strict code of ethics. Our annual sales exceed $10 million.
The coins offered in the eBay listing you refer to are genuine.
How you can profess to state that they are not genuine, or are suspect, from your armchair in California, 5,000 miles away from us, we do not know. We suggest that if you do not know what you are talking about, then keep your mouth shut. At least you could go back to asking questions instead of making statements.
We would also advise you either not to bid on items unless and until you have read the item description, and satisfied yourself that the seller is bona fide. If you are not completely certain, then do not bid. In addition, if you do bid, and win the item, do not fail to pay, and certainly as an NPB Non Paying Bidder, do not post false misleading and defamatory feedback.
Restrike
Incidentally, did you know that one of the items you recently bought:
1915 Austria Proof Like 1 Ducat Gold Coin BU
Austrian Emperor Franz Joseph 1 BU
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39479&item=260012232450
is a restrike?
Interestingly, although the seller appears to be quite reputable, it is not described anywhere in the listing as such.
Good Example
Our listings for these same items state:
These coins are interesting for a number of reasons.
The first thing to note about these coins is that they were not struck in 1915, but have been issued ever since, as an official restrike by the Austrian Mint. Austria has a tradition of issuing commemorative coins after the death of an emperor, with the date frozen.
In a similar tradition is the silver Franz Joseph thaler dated 1780, we have seen many of these coins bought and sold on flea markets and car boot sales at quite high prices, bought by greedy people who thought that they were going to make a quick vast profit, and sold by less-than-honest sellers, who knew the truth! We also frequently see them for sale on eBay, also without being described as restrikes, a practice with which we disagree strongly.
We also receive hundreds of e-mails and telephone calls every year from people demanding to know their value.
We are offering an Austrian 1 Ducat gold official restrike coin in uncirculated (mint) condition.
Reputable Dealers
Reputable Dealers
Although we would not seek to pillory your seller for his omission (he may not know), if you stuck to using reputable, professional, knowledgeable vendors like us, you would get a more accurately described item. However, it is unlikely that many other reputable dealers will wish to deal with you, considering your ill-judged actions and comments.
We may publish your original e-mail to us, or some of the others. If anybody reading this guide is in any need of convincing, this would do the job!
We have now added three of them, see below.
Dennis Windsor's Negative Feedbacks
Other members may be interested to read all four of Dennis Windsor's negative feedbacks to date:
Negative feedback rating NPB Non Paying Bidder. Beyond Reason, Left Defamatory Feedback, Should Be Banned
Seller chardcoins( 3174Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) 27-Aug-06 15:19 8395181246
Negative feedback rating IDIOT ALERT! Read Auction States It Is Sovereign Copy 10K Gold! Non-Paying Jerk!
Seller yardrunt( 412Feedback score is 100 to 499) 17-Aug-06 22:13 Private
Negative feedback rating charge back artist, now blocked
Seller cavendish_collectables( 6374Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) 24-May-06 17:17 8419357094
Negative feedback rating HORRID BUYER!!!! ONE OF THE WORST WE HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! WE SENT HIS MONEY BACK
Seller bestbuybullioninc( 185Feedback score is 100 to 499)
no longer a registered user 07-May-04 15:25 3901317851
Remedies
We can ask eBay nicely to remove this defamatory comment, but they, rather unfairly in our opinion, require each request to be
countersigned by a solicitor, which costs time and money. Actually we did ask our "Platinum Powerseller Personal Support Manager" to get it removed, but he pointed us to their defamation removal page:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/defamation.html
eBay
Attention: Customer Support
Locked Bag 10
Australia Square PO
Sydney NSW 1215
Australia
Sue?
We could sue the member, and eBay for defamation. In this case, it is almost beyond doubt that we would win, and be awarded damages and costs. The main problem with this is that it tends to cost megabucks (think $/£100,000+ in legal fees) to run a libel action. If the other party cannot pay, because they have no money, then the litigant ends up paying. Obviously eBay have plenty of money, so we would get something from them, but it still makes a lot of work to prepare a case, instruct solicitors, and fund the case until completion. It is like sitting down to play poker against an opponent with 100 or 1,000 times your stack of chips. It also seems a bit off that eBay reqire us in the UK to write to eBay in Australia about a member in California USA, but then eBay do some weird things. Could this be one of their ways to make it so much harder for people to pursue genuine complaints against them?
E-Mails
(1)
I am buying a set of seven full British Sovereign coins comprised of
approximately 25% pure gold. These coins are of the same value as
any other real, minted gold Sovereigns as by The Royal Mint. I
would have to have insurance which I will pay for. The shipping
need not be expidited and before inusurance charges shipping is
twelvw dollars USD. All Ebay rules, covenants and restrictions
apply. Seller warrants seller has no leins against said coins and may
legally into this binding contract. These notes cover our sales
agreement whuch is bound by the laws of the Great State of
California. This agreement is not limited to anything not heretofore
mentioned but any favor falls to the buyer (denniswindsor a/k/a
Dennis Purcell) who will pay for the coins with a credit card. Seller
will contact buyer stipulating agreement. Buyer plans to pay by
Paypal. Should seller have mis-warranted goods he will issue a
credit for the full amount including shipping and insurance fees. I
WANT THEM 23rd August 2006
(2)
where was i... Oh! - I really want them and ask you to chsck out my
feedback. Thanks. 23rd August 2006
(3)
why are you selling NINE Sovereigns herefor USD 2500.00 whilst
you're asking but USD $1500.00 for seven elsewhere? Makes me
nervous. Please answer before I can commit to buying the set of
seven, Thanks. 24th August 2006
More Abuse
Today 1st September 2006, we received this message via the eBay message system:
Location:
CA, United States
Registered on:
www.ebay.com
Item: 1887 - 1893 Victoria Jubilee Head Sovereign Set Fine VF (8395181246)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
denniswindsor is a bidder.
you filthy scumbag. still selling trinkets, old boy? Perhaps inland
revenue might find yours an interesting site...
Details for item number: 8395181246
Item title:
1887 - 1893 Victoria Jubilee Head Sovereign Set Fine VF
Item URL:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8395181246&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:UK:1
End date:
Saturday, 09 Sep, 2006 22:44:45 BST
Reported
Naturally, we have reported this as abusive. With any luck, eBay will suspend or terminate this members account.
Our Comment
This is just one example of the type of customer we occasionaly get on eBay. We are disappointed that eBay are so reluctant to take any action against such members, and that their systems are so flaky in the first place that they permit thier own reputable members to be defamed in such a manner, without easy recourse.
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Avoid This Unknowledgeable Buyer
Fortunately most of our customers, both eBay and non eBay customers, are reasonable people.
However in common with all businesses, we come across a small percentage, perhaps only 1 or 2%, who are unreasonable, stupid, paranoid, delusional, or possibly suffering from the temporary or permanent effects of substance abuse.
When it comes to direct (i.e. non-eBay) customers, our normal practice is to politely encourage them to shop elsewhere. Most of the time, they either do this, or become reasonable.
Via eBay, it is a little more difficult to avoid these customers from hell. Sure we could set a minimum feedback level, but we started at zero ourselves, and we decided not to restrict buyers. It is also easy for scammers and conmen to set up multiple accounts, and acquire an instant positive rating by buying numerous 1 cent or 1 penny items. Even a 100+ feedback does not guarantee that an eBay member is OK, as this example shows.
denniswindsor
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback
Feedback Score: 117
Positive Feedback: 96.8%
Members who left a positive: 120
Members who left a negative: 4
All positive feedback received: 228
Feedback Left For Us By Dennis Windsor
Negative feedback rating FRAUD ALERT! No one bought any of 3 sets as they are suspect.
Buyer denniswindsor( 117Feedback score is 100 to 499) 17-Aug-06 17:56 8395181246
Reply by chardcoins: NPB Non Paying Bidder. Beyond Reason, Left Defamatory Feedback, Should Be Banned 25-Aug-06 17:18
Notice to Dennis Windsor
We have been in the coin business as professionals for over 42 years. Everything we sell carries an absolute guarantee that it is genuine (unless specifically and clearly described otherwise), and as described. We are founder members of the BNTA, the UK equivalent of the ANA, and adhere to a strict code of ethics. Our annual sales exceed $10 million.
The coins offered in the eBay listing you refer to are genuine.
How you can profess to state that they are not genuine, or are suspect, from your armchair in California, 5,000 miles away from us, we do not know. We suggest that if you do not know what you are talking about, then keep your mouth shut. At least you could go back to asking questions instead of making statements.
We would also advise you either not to bid on items unless and until you have read the item description, and satisfied yourself that the seller is bona fide. If you are not completely certain, then do not bid. In addition, if you do bid, and win the item, do not fail to pay, and certainly as an NPB Non Paying Bidder, do not post false misleading and defamatory feedback.
Restrike
Incidentally, did you know that one of the items you recently bought:
1915 Austria Proof Like 1 Ducat Gold Coin BU
Austrian Emperor Franz Joseph 1 BU
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39479&item=260012232450
is a restrike?
Interestingly, although the seller appears to be quite reputable, it is not described anywhere in the listing as such.
Good Example
Our listings for these same items state:
These coins are interesting for a number of reasons.
The first thing to note about these coins is that they were not struck in 1915, but have been issued ever since, as an official restrike by the Austrian Mint. Austria has a tradition of issuing commemorative coins after the death of an emperor, with the date frozen.
In a similar tradition is the silver Franz Joseph thaler dated 1780, we have seen many of these coins bought and sold on flea markets and car boot sales at quite high prices, bought by greedy people who thought that they were going to make a quick vast profit, and sold by less-than-honest sellers, who knew the truth! We also frequently see them for sale on eBay, also without being described as restrikes, a practice with which we disagree strongly.
We also receive hundreds of e-mails and telephone calls every year from people demanding to know their value.
We are offering an Austrian 1 Ducat gold official restrike coin in uncirculated (mint) condition.
Reputable Dealers
Reputable Dealers
Although we would not seek to pillory your seller for his omission (he may not know), if you stuck to using reputable, professional, knowledgeable vendors like us, you would get a more accurately described item. However, it is unlikely that many other reputable dealers will wish to deal with you, considering your ill-judged actions and comments.
We may publish your original e-mail to us, or some of the others. If anybody reading this guide is in any need of convincing, this would do the job!
We have now added three of them, see below.
Dennis Windsor's Negative Feedbacks
Other members may be interested to read all four of Dennis Windsor's negative feedbacks to date:
Negative feedback rating NPB Non Paying Bidder. Beyond Reason, Left Defamatory Feedback, Should Be Banned
Seller chardcoins( 3174Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) 27-Aug-06 15:19 8395181246
Negative feedback rating IDIOT ALERT! Read Auction States It Is Sovereign Copy 10K Gold! Non-Paying Jerk!
Seller yardrunt( 412Feedback score is 100 to 499) 17-Aug-06 22:13 Private
Negative feedback rating charge back artist, now blocked
Seller cavendish_collectables( 6374Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) 24-May-06 17:17 8419357094
Negative feedback rating HORRID BUYER!!!! ONE OF THE WORST WE HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! WE SENT HIS MONEY BACK
Seller bestbuybullioninc( 185Feedback score is 100 to 499)
no longer a registered user 07-May-04 15:25 3901317851
Remedies
We can ask eBay nicely to remove this defamatory comment, but they, rather unfairly in our opinion, require each request to be
countersigned by a solicitor, which costs time and money. Actually we did ask our "Platinum Powerseller Personal Support Manager" to get it removed, but he pointed us to their defamation removal page:
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/defamation.html
eBay
Attention: Customer Support
Locked Bag 10
Australia Square PO
Sydney NSW 1215
Australia
Sue?
We could sue the member, and eBay for defamation. In this case, it is almost beyond doubt that we would win, and be awarded damages and costs. The main problem with this is that it tends to cost megabucks (think $/£100,000+ in legal fees) to run a libel action. If the other party cannot pay, because they have no money, then the litigant ends up paying. Obviously eBay have plenty of money, so we would get something from them, but it still makes a lot of work to prepare a case, instruct solicitors, and fund the case until completion. It is like sitting down to play poker against an opponent with 100 or 1,000 times your stack of chips. It also seems a bit off that eBay reqire us in the UK to write to eBay in Australia about a member in California USA, but then eBay do some weird things. Could this be one of their ways to make it so much harder for people to pursue genuine complaints against them?
E-Mails
(1)
I am buying a set of seven full British Sovereign coins comprised of
approximately 25% pure gold. These coins are of the same value as
any other real, minted gold Sovereigns as by The Royal Mint. I
would have to have insurance which I will pay for. The shipping
need not be expidited and before inusurance charges shipping is
twelvw dollars USD. All Ebay rules, covenants and restrictions
apply. Seller warrants seller has no leins against said coins and may
legally into this binding contract. These notes cover our sales
agreement whuch is bound by the laws of the Great State of
California. This agreement is not limited to anything not heretofore
mentioned but any favor falls to the buyer (denniswindsor a/k/a
Dennis Purcell) who will pay for the coins with a credit card. Seller
will contact buyer stipulating agreement. Buyer plans to pay by
Paypal. Should seller have mis-warranted goods he will issue a
credit for the full amount including shipping and insurance fees. I
WANT THEM 23rd August 2006
(2)
where was i... Oh! - I really want them and ask you to chsck out my
feedback. Thanks. 23rd August 2006
(3)
why are you selling NINE Sovereigns herefor USD 2500.00 whilst
you're asking but USD $1500.00 for seven elsewhere? Makes me
nervous. Please answer before I can commit to buying the set of
seven, Thanks. 24th August 2006
More Abuse
Today 1st September 2006, we received this message via the eBay message system:
Location:
CA, United States
Registered on:
www.ebay.com
Item: 1887 - 1893 Victoria Jubilee Head Sovereign Set Fine VF (8395181246)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
denniswindsor is a bidder.
you filthy scumbag. still selling trinkets, old boy? Perhaps inland
revenue might find yours an interesting site...
Details for item number: 8395181246
Item title:
1887 - 1893 Victoria Jubilee Head Sovereign Set Fine VF
Item URL:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8395181246&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:UK:1
End date:
Saturday, 09 Sep, 2006 22:44:45 BST
Reported
Naturally, we have reported this as abusive. With any luck, eBay will suspend or terminate this members account.
Our Comment
This is just one example of the type of customer we occasionaly get on eBay. We are disappointed that eBay are so reluctant to take any action against such members, and that their systems are so flaky in the first place that they permit thier own reputable members to be defamed in such a manner, without easy recourse.
Author & Copyright Notice
Any images shown are our own copyright images. Our text and description is also copyright, Lawrence Chard of Chard Coins.
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